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• Introductory thoughts
Before I begin, I would like to applaud Dare 2 Share (D2S) for making their Deep and Wide Youth Ministry Thesis available for free rather than turning it into a book or a training tour that you have to pay to get access to (and if they do decide to do either of those things, that’s fine as long as we can still have access to the free stuff). If there is anything in the world that should be open-source, it should be things related to Christian ministry. I hope youth ministers, churches, and other Christian organizations will follow this path and make their insights free to all.
If you really want to follow along with me, you should download and read the whole document. It’s only 34 pages long and divided into five sections. Spend about 10 minutes a day for the next five days reading a section and you will have it read. Without any further ado, here we go.
Page 2: Deep and Wide Youth Ministry Introduction
After giving a summary of the Thesis on page one, page two gives a one-page basis for the creation of this Deep and Wide approach to ministry (a prolegomena of sorts). The paper starts out by describing youth ministries has having a “false dichotomy” between evangelism and discipleship. In this point, we are in agreement. As I began to learn in Dr. Castleman’s class years ago there is no such thing as “discipleship and evangelism,” but there is only “discipleshipandevangelism.” The two are not separable; there is no dichotomy. To be an evangelizer, one must be a disciple; to be a disciple, one must also be an evangelizer. I see discipleship and evangelism as existing together in a continuous loop that feeds one another. Without both, the loop does not exist.
Once stated that there is a false dichotomy between discipleship and evangelism, the Thesis states that the way to keep discipleship and evangelism in “balance” is through the “Deep and Wide youth ministry model” (1). To me, words like balance reinforce the false dichotomy that the Thesis says it is trying to combat. To keep something in balance is to say that there are two things independent of one another (i.e. they are dichotomous) that have to be held in equality. If discipleship and evangelism do suffer from a false dichotomy, then they cannot be held in balance because they are not separate entities, but they are inseparable parts of the same whole. To take away one is to take away the other.
Moving on, the basis for the Thesis comes from the words of Jesus in the Great Commission, which gives me a moment of pause (but not because I am against the Great Commission!). To build an entire philosophy of ministry upon a single verse of scripture is something that just rubs me the wrong way. Of course, there is plenty more scripture found in the rest of the document to support other points, but Matthew 28:19 becomes foundational for ministry. As someone who is skeptical of reductionism and foundationalism, I have a hard time reducing the corpus of scripture to a single verse upon which everything in our communal life builds. Ministry is built upon a person, who is the Head of the Body, not an irreducible principle.
Bells started going off in my head when I read the opening statement in the next paragraph:
Effective youth ministries move teens deeper and wider in a concerted and strategic way.
I’m not convinced that it is our goal in ministry is to be effective. I’ve asserted before that youth ministry’s obsession with being successful could be the very thing that has led to its inability to produce lifelong faith in the lives of students. It has been my contention that our goal in ministry is not to be effective, but to be faithful. When considering methods that are “concerted and strategic,” I looked to the ministry of Jesus. While he was doubtlessly concerted (“take up your cross and follow me”), I’m not convinced he had anything remotely resembling a strategy for his ministry other than to do the will of the Father (For a humorous take on Jesus and strategy, see this post at the Faith and Theology blog. Warning: it contains some profanity). Such ministry “strategy” is rooted in cultural notions of efficiency, success, and results. I do believe in helping to move teenagers “past apathy or mere casual interest into a deep spiritual passion for the things of God,” but I’m not sure how strategic that process can be.
I will say more about the “X-factor” later.
As you can see, I share the goals and motivations of D2S to help erase the false dichotomy between discipleship and evangelism and to see people move from apathy to passion. These things we agree on. My contention with their approach seems to lie in epistemology as much as anything. As someone who rejects foundationalism (apart from the person of Jesus Christ), I find it hard to swallow any approach to ministry that tries to build upon an irreducible principle or direction.
Lastly, I’m pretty sure that our definitions of discipleship and evangelism are a bit different. On page 3 evangelism is defined as “sharing gospel truth with those that don’t know Jesus.” Again, my contention is that there is no such thing as a dichotomy between discipleship and evangelism. Thus, I take the stance that at all times we are evangelizing, the only question is what is it that we are evangelizing? I prefer to describe biblical evangelism as sharing the person of Jesus Christ, not the truth about Jesus Christ. Our goal is to be at all times to be sharers of Jesus. This includes verbally, communally, personally, and actively.
Tomorrow we will move on to the next part of the DWYM Thesis.
Your theology is definitely different from mine and D2S’s. I’d point out some of the false dichotomy of your own here that really makes me scratch my head, but that’s not the point of the series. I just appreciate your willingness to open the discussion, even if we agree to disagree.
Well! Matt you are kind of famous I think. All these fancy people commenting on your blog.
I just want to know where I can get some Jesus Coffee cups.
@Tim – Point away! I consider pretty much everything an exercise in theology, so pointing out where I don’t make sense, misspoke, am unclear, contradictory, etc. only helps me to either better articulate what I’m trying to say or to refine my own thinking and practice (because, well, I could be wrong). I’d love to hear your thoughts if you’ve got the time to share them.
@Sadie – I think your thinking is wrong. I’ll see if D2S would be interested in giving out free Jesus coffee cups to people who read my blog.
Dude, I appreciate your openness and willingness to be critiqued. That shows a lot of maturity. I think I’ll decline the offer, though, because my time today needs to be dedicated to other matters. Besides, Christians spend way too much time arguing about theology anyway when there’s a lost world that needs to hear the Word! I’d recommend a book by my personal hero, Charles Ryrie, called, So Great Salvation.
@Tim – fair enough.
PS – My personal hero is Jesus (sorry, I couldn’t resist). Although my to-read stack is taller than I am, I’ll see if the Ryrie book looks interesting enough to add it to the stack.
hahaha you’re so snarky Matt 🙂
well I completly agree with the dichotomy conversation and in my past experience with churches they do create a divide.
I think in Tim’s defence, and apologies if I’m putting words in your mouth, but you use words like produce and goal which…are very secular in contrast and the very thing I think your speaking against Matt. The problem is, as I was thinking, how do we get away from using these kinds of terms? Can we even break from them? I become very enraged with talks of production line style ministry…follow these steps and your students will turn out like this. IN THE MOST SARCASTIC BUT HONEST TONE I really long for when Christian Smith and George Barna team up with Chap Clark and Kara Powell and pole this generation 5-10 years from now to see how much all these programs and propaganda were a complete farce….ok I digress.
I think I understand your Foundationalism argument but I can understand where most denoms and ministries fall into that. we ‘use’ scripture to be the be all for the Kingdom, just look at any statement of Faith, Scripture comes before even the One who breathed it…reason being…we feel we can’t have knowledge of God and His love and Kingdom with out the book, so the book becomes an…apologetic 🙂 I’m going to get crucified for that I’m thinking!!! but again I think this falls into that same realm of something the church has created into a dichotomy which it shouldn’t be…but that for another post I would say. anyways….speaking of hero’s…i’m thinking about starting a new series of blogs titled What would Jesus…..write, read, listen to, eat, wear…more for satirical purposes
i go back and forth about the open source issue. free stuff is great but what about the author or tour speaker who has 80k in student loan debt because he/she spent the last 6 years thinking and reflecting through his/her newest ideas within evangelicalism?
i will need to take a closer look at your 34 page documentation, but at the surface level i have no problems with your theology and methodology in which you are arguing for.
@Jeremy: I understand that not everything will (or can?) be open source, but I don’t think it is reasonable to commodify everything.